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Best Blogs. Search Blogs. How to Install My Fuel Petcock??? User Name. Remember Me? Members List. Mark Forums Read. Main Menu. Club Chop Gallery. Submit Your Photos! Active Threads. SAT Motorsports rigid attempt. Quick Hop. RedWings Club Chopper Member. Not Ranked Just a typical old style harley nut. Not Ranked kind of looks like the spyke one i have. Icon Club Chopper Member. Not Ranked Wow I was about to post this very same petcock question. Ricky-D Club Chopper Member.

Join Date: Jan Location: W. Columbia, SC Posts: 2, Not Ranked Go back!! BMdeckie Club Chopper Member. Posts: Not Ranked Icon, The part thats loose you are talking about, is that the knurled "cap" at the bottom of it in the picture? Not Ranked The nut has a left and right hand thread, hold the petcock at the angle you want and tighten the nut on BOTH threads at the same time and it'll tighten the petcock at that angle and it has to be tight or it will leak like a 2 bit hoe.

I am having trouble figuring out which one it is The Golan is rebuildable How important is this really, as I have no idea what the average "lifespan" is for a petcock. Second, I see that some folks install a fuel filter How important is having a fuel filter? If I plan on getting a different petcock anyways, should I cough up the extra cash and get a filter? If so, which one? Thanks for a fantastic thread, all! I don't know how long a petcock lives, but the pingel absolutely is rebuildable.

Kim, thunderpaw would know. He's the Golan Xpert. Thanks hun Any opinion about the fuel filter if I go with a new petcock? And don't you ever sleep?!? You don't need no additional fuel filter You don't have fuel injectors You have a crude carburator The filter sock on the end of your petcock will filter out particles smaller than would get stuck between the carb's float needle and seat assembly and cause the needle and seat to hang open FACT Don't worry about it.

I'm here, lol! The Jireh PN is: You may never need to rebuild your petcock. Pingels are most definitely rebuildable. However, Pingel has this caveat: "Not designed for hose outlet down typical Sportster orientation-my comment ,dual or triple valve; we recommend these valves be sent directly to Pingel for rebuilding.

That's it. Only normal hand tools are required. Both the Pingel and Golan are beautiful, quality units. It's purely a matter of personal choice and availability. I do appreciate the effort that Golan went to in order to make their product easily serviceable in the field, if it is ever needed. And, okay, I'll admit it I like the tactile feel of the stainless steel ball bearing detents at off, on and reserve. Regarding a filter, Ron is correct-it's not necessary.

That said, I like to use a clear one for a visual confirmation of fuel condition and flow. Just allows me to rule some things out in a hurry Yeah, and they are only a buck or two oh I am so shamelessly cheap! Do you have a part number or application for that fuel filter so I can find one? When I took my carb apart for stage one, there was crap all in the float bowl.

I was not happy about that at all. I figure the filter will help delay the inevitable clogging of the jets and gumming of the carb. I will get you a number and shoot a picture of a couple of different versions of the same thing.

Once you see it, you will be able to recognize it easily. I scored a handful on closeout in the lawnmower section of Wal Mart for a buck apiece. And I thank you for being here! One thing to consider: a clear filter allows you to eyeball water in the fuel and allows a bit of room for it to settle out.

Aw, shucks Is that part number you gave me for the "Second Generation" model? It says degrees between on and reserve, so does that mean off is straight out to the left of the bike, as in your picture? I like that too. I think on and reserve are right next to each other on the Pingel, with off being forward. Oh, alright Chuck. The number I gave you is for the new series Golan petcock.

It's the one with the stainless steel ball bearing detents. Same part number that I ordered from. As far as positions are concerned Center is 'off'. Rearward is 'reserve'. Don't know about the website, but the catalog in front of my face shows the same petcock as I have. Okay, one more question about the Golan Here are a couple of pics of the filters that I use. The one on the left or bottom is the one I got from the import auto supply, the one in the package was a closeout from the lawnmower section at Wal Mart see I prefer the version with the barbed ends Exactly what I needed to know.

Once again, thanks kindly! Thunderpaw, any problems with vapor lock with the fuel filter between the cylinders? None whatsoever. It's the same route that the OEM fuel line takes. The fuel line is on the intake side of the cylinders and I've never noticed it getting more than just warm to the touch. I just installed my pingel today and I have to admit that I do see a difference in how fast it filled up my fuel filter when I turned it on.

I had a little bit of garbage on the stockers filter but not much at all. Only problem I can see myself having now because of it is that I have a glass fuel filter that is touching the heads now because the nipple for the pingel is further back than that stocker was.

So I zip tied the fuel line to the back of the horn bracket to hold the fuel filter off of the heads so I hopefully won't have any problems with it.

I think I am going to change to another style now. But, are they 22mm? Any one have one? And if so, are they any good? Need that input again. Thanks, Jay-Impala-man. I'm surprised that no one has hit a supplier up for a group buy :dunno I had a pingle on my B. More than it's good looks I never had a problem with it.

Another plus is you can drain your gas tank with the Pingel; on the stocker unless there is vacuum, no gas will flow.

So, I have had my Pingle for a few weeks now, and am still looking at it on my table. I think that it is about time to put it on. I really don't want to take the tank off however. Well i need to get it on, so I just need to get off of my arse and do it. We will see soon enough. After doing some reading, I emailed Ness about the specific part Got no reply Joe You can absolutely do this without removing your tank.

In fact, I imagine the vast majority of people here who have swapped out their petcock did it without removing the tank. Just drain the tank, disconnect the fuel lines from the stock petcock, unthread it and slide it out. As ThunderPaw mentioned, this is a standard fuel filter for most older Volkswagens. Any auto parts shop that emphasizes on VWs or foreign cars should have them. The VW shops in my area have them in mass quantity all around the counters.

They're cheap and the kind of part that VW owners those who work on their own engines buy all the time. Just talked to Pingel, and they have a vacuum operated version of their petcock now, part number CHV. Has anybody tried that one yet? Not here. Wouldn't want to, either.

If one can get into a ritual of: hit stop switch, turn off ignition key and close petcock The vacuum petcocks were an answer to a perceived liability issue.

They are really not an advance in technology. Kim I was surprised at how fast that action became second-nature both when getting on and when leaving the bike. Sometimes I go back to check that I actually turned it off because I just do it automatically and don't remember doing it. Kim Been doing that since the 60's Second nature to me. Never leave my petcock open. Went down only once and hit the kill switch because the engine was still running.

Just so everyone knows, I think the Ness petcock is a good deal. But, I have to remember to turn it off. Gas will come out of the overflow! Also, i believe I need to rejet for some reason. Anyone done this? I just have to remember to turn it off like I did all the time on my old Triumph's and Norton's. I am running a 45 and a stock main with 2 slims. Do I need to take out the slims? I am running too rich my brouther saids. But, he also thinks I am crazy to go back to the 60"s. Any help will help.

God bless! Hi, Jay. It sounds like your two problems gas coming out of the overflow if you leave the petcock on and running rich may be connected.

The float needle should stop any gas from coming out the overflow even if the petcock is left in the on position. Sounds like you have a little piece of trash under the needle that is preventing it from seating all the way-either that or the float is set way too high. I vote for the trash under the needle scenario.

You may be able to clear it by removing the float bowl and turning on the petcock for a few moments to see if whatever is stuck there will just flush out. If you don't already have one, an inline fuel filter will help in preventing the larger crud from getting into the carb.

Where is the best place to buy the Golan? Would it hurt any to get the high flow model? It seems the extra flow would be wasted on a stage1, but is their a reason the high flow would cause a problem? Also, does the high flow have the detents? Well, I just almost stuck my cyberfoot in my mouth. I got my "Click Slick" ball bearing from Jireh last year. I was about to say "of course they have it" I'd call them I would definitely go for the ball bearing petcock.

What an excellent thread I would like to contribute to the knowledge store For instance, my choice is AH so, The first digit represents the valve series The Pingel Applications page will assist in determining the correct model for your application.

Just happened to glance at the thread title tonight and thought, how much difference can a petcock possibly make? Well, after reading this entire thread, I've received quite an education and I'm writing just to say thank you to everyone. I will put this on my list of things-to-do in the near future.

I have always, by the way, turned my petcocks off when I stopped, because I started riding so long ago that they didn't have vacuum petcocks back then and it became a force of habit.

I've done it on every bike I've ever owned, regardless of brand. So the Pingel petcock will work just fine for me, I think. Thanks again, everyone.

Great thread, great info. Ordered mine last week, have't had the chance to put it on yet. Dan will fix you up. I'll have to add that to my to-buy list ;. An interesting thread yes the vacume can cause slight canges in carberation and fuel flow but if you have no leaks these are very small and would only be noticeable at tick over if any just did a little math: if the converted oem petcock can drain the tank in 10 mins not conected to the carb, thats 18gals per hour so a bike that does 50mpg will have to be doing mph for the petcock to have any efect or at hard riding, say mph you will only be getting 6mpg so if petcock flow has any effect its going to be broke!

I totally agree with rodastro Something must have been wrong with your original petcock. Hey Bruce I was not aware that they sold the unit. I would rather do business with one of our sponsors as a matter of preference. So, I will contact them for information on how to obtain Golan unit instead of the Pingel that I was considering from another vendor.

Ride safe. Cookieman, Ping me off list. After reading so much about the Golan I had to get one too. Unfortunately nobody here in Germany sells them. Does anybody know how it is with the reserve position, is it adjustable or does it have the same amount of Gas than the stocker does???

Hello Dotom If I read your post correctly, you want to know how much fuel is left in the tank when the primary circuit runs out. I searched for an answer but did not find one online. I suspect that the reserve amount would be as much as the stock petcock.

To be sure, I would test the theory by the following procedure: Set to 'On' position and drain into a clean gasoline can. Place the drain hose into another clean gasoline can, set the petcock to 'Reserve' and see how much gasoline is left to drain. You will then know exactly how much fuel is left when 'Reserve' is called for.

I have a Golan on the way and I plan to conduct this procedure so that I know how much fuel is left for 'Reserve'. Happy Easter from the Texas coast. Ride safe Cookiey. I don't know how much HP you can make with the stock POS vacuum valve but I was having all kinds of gremlins and putting the Pingle on fixed all of them. My bike would just shut off going down the road about times a month and I also had surging problems on the freeway and now none of these things happen. I don't care how good the stock vacuum valve should be because its a piece of chit.

Do your self a favor and get rid of it. My Pingel has the same reserve as my stocker did,. I got all the performance enhancments that were to be expected and a bonus one I learned a bit later. If you need to pull the fuel tank to work on something, its a bitch to drain with the vacuum type petcock. With the Pingel, I just hook on a long piece fuel line and run it into a gas can.

Turn on the fuel and it drains in no time! The leak turned into a small stream and after about 30 mins it was pouring out. Ended up being the rubber gasket between the plate and the tank. It split out where the standpipe goes into tank allowing alky to run down over everything incuding my leg.

I made a new gasket out of a truck innertube and it seems to be holding. Thanks for the responses Make sure you wrap the tape in the right direction.

That would be clockwise with the fittings facing you. If not the tape will ball up when you thread the fitting in and it will for sure leak.

My stock valve was leaking so I went to the pingle and have no leaks, and it's pointing at the carbs. Like said before, do the 3 wraps, with the threads, and it should be just fine. Theres a gasket sealer out there it's red in color that you can use on the threads It works alot better than the teflon Let me try and remember the name But mine has never leaked yet If you guys wanna save some money buy another stock fuel valve and install it on the other side of the gas tank.

Run one line from each valve to each carb. Pretty much all a pingel is. Cheap and it works. I have had mine for a while now and no leaks and it points towards the carbs. As great as this sounds I'm pretty sure that the the fuel tank is lower on the side with the valve, which would mean if you start to run out of gas you could potentialy compleatly starve one cylinder.

I'd like to do this if you figured out a way to make it work without having to worry about potentialy blowing up my motor. The stock splitter sucks so I was goign to get a pingel but damn you get rapped on the price! You can post now and register later.